My Conversion
HOW CAN I KEEP MY HEART FROM SINGING
Pam Forrester
When I was eight I asked my mom to take me to the little church at the end of our street. She began to drop me off every week for Sunday School. One Sunday, my teacher presented the Gospel and encouraged us to accept Jesus Christ as our savior.
“But,” she told us, “you must be willing to do anything for God, like be a missionary.”
Well, I really wanted to be saved but I did not want to be a missionary! I had to think this over. I went home and thought about it for a while, my little 8 year-old soul struggling against selfish desire. Some weeks later, I convinced myself that I would be willing to be a missionary for Jesus and I asked Him to come into my heart.
For years I had a very fervent faith, even up to my first year in college – when the theory of evolution and the desire to sin enticed me to abandon my faith. I conveniently became an atheist for two years during the 60’s. Then, my mom gave me a copy of The Late Great Planet Earth, a book about the second coming of Christ. After reading it, I decided that perhaps the Bible was relevant after all and not just some dusty old book I could safely ignore. So, I rededicated my life to Christ.
I gave a copy of the Late Great Planet Earth to my boyfriend Mike, a first-year medical student, and he committed his life to Christ too. A year later we took a Bible course called The Bethel Series – a two year overview of the whole Bible. We got married, taught Bethel, led small group Bible studies and studied Scripture in depth. We moved from California to Baltimore so Mike could do his surgery residency at Johns Hopkins Hospital. And then we moved to Houston so he could do specialty training.
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Since we were convinced that the Bible alone was sufficient for faith and salvation, we wanted to know exactly what words in the Bible meant. I bought a Greek dictionary and a Greek interlinear Bible and taught myself to read the Greek alphabet. When Mike finished his residency we moved to California with our three young children. Mike set up practice in a small town north of San Diego. We found a great church and we joined a weekly Bible study group.
It was here that we first heard about the doctrine of Eternal Security – the belief that a once a Christian is “saved,” he cannot lose salvation no matter what he does. We objected initially, but were assured it was true, our friends firing off memorized Bible verses to support the doctrine. We backed down for a while. Then Mike began his own Bible study by listening to tapes of the Bible while exercising. I also studied, on my own, with my dictionaries, concordances and Greek interlinear. Before long, Mike was using these sources as well. We soon became convinced that there were hundreds of verses that did not align with the “once saved, always saved” doctrine. Our Bible study group swelled to overflowing as Mike taught how Scripture refuted Eternal Security. We were labeled Arminian even though we had never heard of Arminius or what he wrote. But we did reject Calvinism, especially the doctrine of Limited Atonement.
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Thats Not Calvins Words ” Once saved always saved”
What it means that once Jesus has called you , you cant pick Jesus He picks you , That even if you apostay that you still belong under His Judgement.
Scriptrues teach that you are sealed
OT Outlook
A King gives you a seal
Only that King can Break the Seal
If Jesus is realy your Savior
Then only He can take your Salvation away YOU CANT, Never Can The Roman Catholic Church
Eph 1:13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,
Eph 1:14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.
Only Jesus can Give or take away Salvation
In Light of Scriptrue He never Lets you go even if you SIn
your under His judgement Now and forever
Gal 1:11 For I would have you know, brothers, that the gospel that was preached by me is not man’s gospel.
You would be surprised at the awesome power and authority that God gave to the Catholic Church. To refresh your memory, and in Jesus actual words, “Matthew 16:18-19 And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.
Your theological understanding suffers as a result of your particular, chosen faith tradition. Your particular understanding of the gospel message is in serious error. Pray to God for wisdom and discernment.
HIsrory By Dates
The Roman Catholic Church wasnt started till around 300AD(Constantine’s Conversion 337 AD)
It was still known as the Church of Rome
There were in fact 22 churches during Bible times Romans 16:16 is use in the pluar
Rom 16:16 Salute one another with an holy kisse. The Churches of Christ salute you.
KJ(1611)
CHURCHES Literary evidence (Acts 1:13–14; 2:46) shows that the earliest congregational meetings of the disciples of Jesus, for prayer, the eucharist and the agape (a love-feast held in connection with the Lord’s supper) took place in private houses.
Negev, Avraham: The Archaeological Encyclopedia of the Holy Land. 3rd ed. New York : Prentice Hall Press, 1996, c1990
The constitution of the Mother Church of Jerusalem after 42 A.D. seems to have followed strictly the Jewish model, James and the elders or presbyters corresponding to the High Priest and the Sanhedrin.
History is sure of all of them except for the Church of Rome
Paul’s vist Could Have been in 55-57ad but most Likey a Little earlery
There was a Chirstian fellowship already there.
The Word church is a Greek “ekklesia” word common meaning , That it was a place of worship to the Pegan gods. The pegans were converted to Chirst, the name didnt need to change because it was a common word. They would carry “euangelion” greek word for “Evangelical” which means: “gospel” or “good news.
St. Peter (Greek: Πέτρος, Pétros “Rock”) The rock that Jesus was reffering too was Peter. His Chruch The Chruch of Jesus Chirst would be established on the Rock , Peter.
Not a acuall rock on hill in Rome.
The confusion of are argument is the name catholic , Greek katholikos universal its not even a latin word.
Peter mostliky Didnt even speak Latin(Latin spoken mostly in Rome or Italy. Paul might have spoke latin Peter lived in Palistian all his life till , he went to Rome. But Im srue he spoke greek given the fact that Greek influces had been established for around 400 years and became the trade langauge.
Yes St.Peter was the first Papa of the chruch of Rome , but the Church was very differnt in those day than it is today. Rome did not control or rule over the other churches intel Constine. I think thats what the first Nicene Council was about. Now that Chruch was intergrated with the Empire it rule not just Militarly or eco-politcaly. Now the Empire could rule human hearts. Not Jesus but the Roman EMpire. This were my protest in the History begains.
My protest isnt towards the Holy catholic church (Church found in the Bible), Its towards , the Roman Catholic Church. I think the early Fathers were right on , they were still Human though, ST. Amborse, ST. Jerome, St. Agustine, St. Benard,ST. Thomas Aquinas and many others these are just a few
Timeline
33. Descent of the Holy Ghost On the Day of Pentecost
62. Martyrdom of St. James the Less
64. Persecution by Nero begins
68. Martyrdom of St. Peter and St. Paul
70. Destruction of Jerusalem by Titus
95. Persecution by Domitian
100. Death of St. John
116. Martyrdum of Ignatius
166. Martyrdoms of Justin and Polycarp
168. Montanus publishes his heresy
177. Persecution at Lyons and Vienne
190. Tertullian flourishes
202. Persecution by Severus begins
-. Martyrdom of Origen’s father
206. Martyrdom of Perpetua and her companions
248. Cyprian, bishop of Carthage
249. Persecution by Decius
251. Paul, the first hermit
-. Troubles at Carthage; Novatian schism
253. Plague at Carthage
254. Death of Origen
-. Disagreement between Cyprian and Stephen of Rome
257. Persecution by Valerian
258. Martyrdom of Cyprian
260. Conversion of the Goths begins
261. Valerian prisoner-Gallienus tolerates Christians
270. Manes publishes his heresy
298. Diocletian requires idolatry from soldiers, &c.,
303. The last general persecution begins
311. Separation of the Donatists from the Church
313. End of the persecution
314. Council of Arles about the Donatists
319. Arius begins to publish his heresy
324. Constantine defeats Licinius,
declares self Christian
325. The First General Council held at Nicaea
-Arius condemned
-The Nicene Creed made
326. Athanaslus, bishop of Alexandria
335. Council of Tyre
-. Athanasius banished to Treves
336. Death of Arius
337. Death of Constantine
338. Athanasius restored to his see
341. Second banishment of Athanasius
343. Persecution in Persia
347. Revolt, defeat, and banishment of the Donatists
348. Ulfilas, bishop of the Goths
349. Second return of St. Athanasius
356. Third exile of Athanasius
-. Death of Antony the hermit
361. Julian emperor-Paganism restored
362. The Donatists recalled
-. Athanasius restored, but again banished
-. Attempt to rebuild the Temple of Jerusalem
363. Death of Julian
370. Basil, bishop of Caesarea, in Cappadocia
372. Gregory of Nazianzum consecrated bishop of Sasima
373. Death of Athanasius
374. Ambrose, bishop of Milan
378. Gregory of Nazianzum goes to Constantinople
379. Theodosius, emperor
380. Gregory, bishop of Constantinople-Death of Basil
381. Second General Council held at Constantinople
-Gregory withdraws from his see
385. Execution of Priscillian
387. Baptism of Augustine
-. Sedition at Antioch
390. Massacre at Thessalonica, repentance of Theodosius
391. Destruction of the Temple Of Serapis
395. Death of Theodosius
-. Augustine, bishop of Hippo
397. Death of Ambrose
-. Chrysostom, bishop of Constantinople
400. Pelagius teaches his heresy at Rome
403. Death of Telemachus at Rome
-. Council of the Oak-Chrysostom banished, recalled
404. Chrysostom banished to Cucusus
407. Death of Chrysostom
409. The Romans withdraw from Britain
410. Rome taken by Alaric
-. Pelagius and Celestius in Africa
411. Conference with the Donatists at Carthage
412. Ninian bishop of Whithorn
415. Councils in the Holy Land as to Pelagius
429. Pelagianism put down in Britain by German & Lupus
430. Death of Augustine
431. Third General Council held at Ephesus
-Condemnation of Nestorius
432. Death of Ninian-Patrick goes into Ireland
449. “Robber Council” meets at Ephesus
-. Landing of the Saxons in England
451. Fourth General Council held at Chalcedon
- Condemnation of Eutyches
-. Attila in France-Deliverance of Orleans
452. Attila in Italy
455. Rome plundered by Genseric
476. End of the Western Empire
484-519. Schism between Rome and Constantinople
493. Death of Patrick
496. Conversion of Clovis
527. Justinian, emperor
529. The heathen schools of Athens shut up
-. Benedict draws up his Rule for monks
541. Jacob leader of the Monophysites
553. Fifth General Council held at Constantinople
565. Columba settles at Iona
-. Death of Justinian
589. Third Council of Toledo-
The Spanish Church renounces Arianism
-. Columban goes into France
590. Gregory the Great, bishop of Rome
596. Mission of Augustine to England
597. Landing of Augustine in Kent
-Conversion of Ethelbert
604. Deaths of Gregory and Augustine
PART II
589-615. Missionary labours of St Columban
612. Mahomet begins to publish his religion
627. Jerusalem taken by the Mussulmans
632. Death of Mahomet.
635. Settlement of Scottish missionaries in Holy Island 172
664. Council of Whitby
724. Beginning of controversy as to images
-. Victory of Charles Martel over the Saracens
734. Death of the Venerable Bede
715-755. Missionary Labours of St Boniface
752. Pipin becomes king of the Franks
787. Second Council of Nicaea
794. Council of Frankfort
800. Charles the Great crowned as emperor
-. Forgery of Constantine’s donation (approx.)
814. Death of Charles the Great
826-865. Missionary labours of Anskar
846. Forgery of the False Decretals (approx.)
860-870. Conversion of Bulgarians,
Moravians, Bohemians, &c
912. Foundation of the Order of Cluny
962. Otho I, emperor
988. Conversion of Basil, great prince of Russia
999. Sylvester II, pope
994-1030. Conversion of Norwegians.
1046. Council of Sutri
1048. Pope Leo IX.- Beginning of Hildebrand’s
influence over the papacy
1073. Hildebrand elected pope (Gregory VII )
1074. Foundation of the Carthusian Order
1085. Death of Gregeory VII
1098. Foundation of the Cistercian Order
1099. Jerusalem taken in the First Crusade
1113. Order of St John (or Hospitallers) founded
1116. Order of the Temple founded
1123. Agreement between pope and emperor at Worms
1147-1149. The Second Crusade
1153. Death of St. Bernard
1154. Nicolas Breakspeare, an Englishman,
chosen pope (Adrian IV)
1170. Murder of Archbishop Thomas Becket
1189. The Third Crusade
1198. Innocent III elected pope
1203. Constantinople taken by Crusaders
1208. England put under an interdict
1208-1229. War against the Albigenses
1215. Fourth Council of the Lateran-Innocent sanctions
the Dominican and Franciscan Orders
of Mendicant Friars
1240. First Crusade of St. Lewis
1270. Second Crusade and death of St. Lewis
1274. Second Council of Lyons
1294. Election of Pope Celestine V
–. Election of Pope Boniface VIII
1300. Boniface celebrates the first jubilee
1303. Death of Boniface
1310. The popes settle at Avignon
1312. Council of Vienne-The Templars dissolved
1377. Gregory XI moves the papacy from Avignon to Rome
1378. Beginning of the Great Schism of the West
1384. Death of John Wyclif
1414-1418. Council of Constance
1415. Pope John XXIII deposed
–. John Huss burnt by order of the Council
1417. Election of Pope Martin V and end of the Schism
1418. Religious war of Bohemia breaks out
1431. Council of Basel opened
1438. Council of Ferrara and Florence
1453. Constantinople taken by the Turks
1455. Invention of Printing
1464. Pope Pius II vainly attempts a crusade
1498. Death of Savonarola
1503. Death of Pope Alexander VI
1517. Appearance of Martin Luther as a reformer