Vatican II – the “pastoral council” that brought chaos to the Church – even before the close of its final session.

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Contrary to the official party line, Vatican II was no “love-fest”

Could the great apostasy brought on by diabolically disoriented popes be what is spoken of in the portion of the Third Secret of Fatima that has yet to be revealed?  Let’s consider the testimony of Cardinal Ciappi who read the Third Secret.  Cardinal Ciappi was a distinguished theologian from the pontifical household from 1955 to 1989.  In a letter to Professor Baumgartner, the Cardinal made an astonishing admission about the Third Secret.  He wrote: “In the Third Secret it is predicted, among other things, that the great apostasy in the Church will begin at the top.” (6) Notice, he didn’t say it would begin “near the top”, but “at the top” – the same pattern we have seen repeated throughout history.

In a 1984 interview, Cardinal Ratzinger also spoke of the contents of the Third Secret of Fatima.  The interviewer asked: “Have you read what is called the Third Secret of Fatima?”  To his surprise, the Cardinal answered “yes”, and then went on to discuss what it contained.  The Cardinal said “the things contained within the ‘Third Secret’ correspond to what has been announced in Scripture and has been said again and again in many other Marian Apparitions”.  (As an aside, we must ask where Scripture speaks of the failed assassination attempt of John Paul II?)  Continuing on, the Cardinal said the Third Secret speaks of “dangers threatening the Faith… and the importance of the ‘novissimi ’[the end times].”  Once again we see a prelate, who had read the Third Secret, state that it refers to dangers threatening the Faith.

But perhaps the most interesting statement comes from Paul VI himself on the sixtieth anniversary of the Miracle of the Sun, during which he spoke of apostasy at the very “summit” of the Church, which confirms what Cardinal Ciappi wrote to Professor Baumgartner.  Here is what Paul VI had to say on October 13, 1977:

The tail of the devil is functioning in the disintegration of the Catholic world. The darkness of Satan has entered and spread throughout the Catholic Church even to its summit. Apostasy, the loss of the faith, is spreading throughout the world and into the highest levels within the Church.  (7)

Is it just a coincidence that Paul VI made this statement on the anniversary of Fatima?   It seems unlikely.  It seems more likely that he was revealing what is contained in the Third Secret.

But if this is what the Third Secret contains, when would it begin?  Is there a particular date that one could look to as the beginning of this great apostasy that would begin “at the top” – at the very “summit” of the Church?

In the famous 1957 interview of Sister Lucy of Fatima with Fr. Fuentes, about the events of Fatima, the cloistered nun asked her interviewer the following question: “Father, how much time is there before 1960 arrives?”  Why would she ask about the date 1960?  She then went on to explain.  She said when this date arrives, “it will be very sad for everyone, not one person will rejoice at all if beforehand the world does not pray and do penance.”  She then ended by saying: “I am not able to give any other details because it is still a secret.

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  1. “But unlike the angels who fell, God did not abandon man, but instead promised to send a Redeemer.”

    This sentence jumped off the screen. It—no doubt, unintentionally—tersely articulates the problematic capriciousness of God, at least from my bedimmed vantage point. (From God’s viewpoint, He can do—and does—what He pleases, with unquestionable integrity and goodness.)

    I will continue to read the essay, in the hope of an integrated conclusion.

    If I have any worthwhile comments at the end, I will share them.

  2. Having now read the entire essay, my take-away is utterly without comfort or reassurance. The final paragraph provides no solace whatsoever.

  3. Alas this is no more than the perennial sensationalism of the uneducated rabble!
    The Internet is full of such hysterical propositions that anyone reading them would become confused or filled with anxiety. There is nothing new in this claptrap it is the result of the uneducated trampling upon the truth in order to satisfy their own deplorable lack of knowledge or merit.

    Any person that has any real long term interest in Fatima and the entire story should visit the Shrine and speak to the relevant authorities and forget about the horrific tales of woe that are often declared and re-declared as if the original lies were correct. The snowball affect of such sensational tales of future horror are not only misleading and abusive they are ignorant!

    Firstly all three secrets are well documented and have been declared. The first was on hell, the second on the rise of Soviet Union and the last (the famous untold horror story) was about the pope in Rome. Given on 13th May 1918 it was very much in part realised on the same day in 1981.
    Papal Suffering and destruction which is AVERTED by devotion to the Madonna!
    It is not about chaos and it is not about world wide apostasy from a weak pope (the author believed would be called Francis I presume?)
    It is not about the end of the world nor about some opening of the gates of hell to swallow humanity into some burping black hole!
    Yet as I have often stated and here am FORCED TO RESTATE YET AGAIN! The truth must not be allowed to get in the way of a good story! The more sensational the better! the more Anti-Catholic the better! And if it can take a pop-shot at the Pope then that is just another feather in the cap to these unthinking idiots!
    As I stated at the start of this reply – The sensational nature of the tale is a perennial rumblings of the uneducated! Nevertheless, I am sad in the realisation that some people reading these articles will be led towards sin and even despair. There is only one way to counteract such vociferous babbling and that is by Prayer for wisdom, Prayer for truth and Prayer that such miscreants that spread this garbage are confounded by the truth they are so neglectful of!!!

    • Please tell us what you really think!


      • 🙂 Sorry Doug but I think that groupings of people are enough to test any Catholics patience!

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