What do conservatives really think about Cardinal Mahoney?

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Editor’s note: If you watch the video, note the illicit and just plain wrong post-consecration decanting of the precious blood.

CM says:
February 27, 2013 at 11:20 am

Hi! I have lived in the LA Archdiocese all my life. Yes Mahoney is a “liberal”. Where should I start? He wrote and promulgated “Gather Faithfully Together”. A document that outlined his vision of the Mass and it’s meaning, the “appropriate” gestures, and the words to describe all the participants. It’s the first time I ever saw the word “presider”, which was, apparently supposed to apply to the priest celebrant. But most of us saw that he was trying to leave open the possibility of non-priests leading worship. It is THE document that got dear Mother Angelica of EWTN in so much hot water with Mahoney. She was right to criticize it.
Mahoney was an advocate of liturgical dancing.
He gave very short shrift to pro-life work, and no attention at all to NFP. Priests were discouraged to even talk about it, be ause he thought it would drive the faithful away.
He made sure the diocesan seminary was staffed with people of the same ilk. They made a point of discouraging young men who had a more traditional view of serving the Church. He opened the seminary up to women who wanted to study theology, etc.
He was known to be very harsh with priests who tried to disagree with his policies.
The books he wanted used for CCD were so watered down they were all but useless for learning the basics of the Faith.
He raised the age for Confirmation to 15 or 16, too long after puberty, and made it a two year program that is grindingly difficult for families to have to endure, not to mention tedious. The families I know went through it said a lot of the time was just filler, and they had to also, somehow, fit in a hundred “service hours” for the Church in already tight schedules.
He was a fan of moving tabernacles away from the center of the church so that the focus could be on Jesus “active” presence at the Mass. The tabernacle was a distraction.
He wanted as many parishes as possible to be renovated, at great expense, to fit his model of the Mass.
The Religious Education Conference became a showcase for all the “progressive” religious and lay theologians, teachers, etc. who could then come and poison our diocese with watered down teachings on Faith and morals.
He was soft on Dignity, the gay rights Catholic group. He allowed them a lot of freedom in the diocese, allowing them to have their own Masses in our parishes. He also encouraged a group that encourages families with same sex attracted children to meet and find acceptance of their children’s lifestyle.
And last, but not least, he built his own massive, horribly ugly cathedral down in LA. He couldn’t find the money to renovate to earthquake codes the historic St. Vibiana’s Cathderal, but the cost of this warehouse looking thing was a great waste of money. He actually had a campaign during the Mass years ago, inviting everyone to buy a paver that would go on the floor around the altar. And, no, your name was not going to be on it, but you could go out into the foyer, and look up in a computer exactly where your paver was to be located. Oh, and I almost forgot, a former well known head of Disney, who donated a ton of money to building the “cathedral”, a non catholic, and gay sympathiser ,etc., will be buried under the altar someday. Perfect.
We cannot wait for him to stop talking and writing. We have been praying for him for years. *Sigh*

LA fallout: Only the pope has authority to deal with accusations against a cardinal, but the local bishop is the undisputed head of his particular church.

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While Gomez’s decision to strip Mahony of his administrative duties and reduce his public role was unprecedented in the American Roman Catholic Church, Mahony can still act as a priest, keep his rank as cardinal and remain on a critical Vatican panel that elects the next pope.

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The Surprising “Key” to Church Reform: Publicly Embarrass the Bishop In Charge.

Ten days after an initial release from 30,000 pages of clergy sex-abuse files in the archdiocese of Los Angeles sparked widespread scorn and calls for the prosecution of now-retired Cardinal Roger Mahony and his then-vicar for clergy, now Auxiliary Bishop Thomas Curry, in a letter to the 5 million-member church released tonight, Archbishop José Gomez announced that the embattled auxiliary would be relieved of his pastoral oversight of two of the LA church’s three counties, while the iconic Mahony – the longest-reigning American cardinal named after Vatican II, whose quarter-century tenure saw his hometown church become the largest diocese in the nation’s history – will, according to his successor, “no longer have any administrative or public duties.”

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Cardinal Mahoney: “I’m surprised that more people didn’t leave the church over this.”

At the end of our two-hour conversation, he came back to the subject, describing “the incredible sorrow” he has “for what the victims of these terrible wrongs went through, and are going through. I’ve met with more than 90 victims. I watched all the videotaped depositions of those involved in the settlement. I could only watch for a time, and then I had to go to the chapel. They were heartbreaking. I also read all the victims’ statements. One, I simply couldn’t believe the terrible things that had been done. It took me three days to read; an hour of reading and then back to the chapel. I had no idea what these people had suffered. It still has a profound impact on me.

“I have apologized to those who suffered whenever I could. I can never say, ‘I apologize’ enough times.”

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LA Cardinal Tells a Grim Tale of Sex Abuse Complicity

By Kathleen Gilbert

LOS ANGELES, June 22, 2010 (LifeSiteNews.com) – In a videotaped deposition released last Tuesday, Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony admits he did not think it necessary to contact police after learning of the sex abuse perpetrated by a priest in his diocese against two boys. Instead, Mahony transferred the priest to other locations, where the abuse could potentially continue.

The archdiocese had tried but failed to keep private the deposition, which was taken as part of a lawsuit that resulted in a $2.2 million settlement.

The five-hour videotaped deposition, the first to be released to the public, shows Mahony explaining his conduct after former priest Michael Baker confessed to him in 1986 that he had molested two boys. Baker, who has been accused of abuse by at least 23 individuals, is now serving a 10-year jail sentence on charges of molestation.

When John Manly, an attorney representing one of Baker’s victims, asked if the cardinal agreed “that the first thing any priest should do … when you learn that a priest has molested a child is call the police,” Mahony answered, “not necessarily.” Later, he said he was unable to report the accusations to the police because the priest had not told him the names of the victims or their parents, and the suspected child abuse form requires one to fill out the name. He admitted, however, that he did not direct his staff to try to find the victims.

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Immigrants and a new priest have revitalized a failing Los Angeles church

by Mitchell Landsberg, Los Angeles Times
May 26, 2010

His parishioners describe Father Paul Griesgraber as “old school,” a term that is almost laughably open to interpretation, given the 2,000-year history of his particular school, the Roman Catholic Church. In his case, it is used with affection and respect to describe a priest who trusts in the majesty of the Catholic Mass and invests it with deep spirituality — in both English and Spanish.

He is also a priest who brings people streaming through the doors of his church, St. Catherine of Siena in Reseda, a place that, in many ways, reflects the larger Archdiocese of Los Angeles. Once largely white, St. Catherine’s is now mostly Latino. Immigrants have pumped new life into the parish, and Spanish-language Masses draw larger crowds than those in English.

“The church was dead,” Olga Calderone, St. Catherine’s health director, said bluntly of the time before Griesgraber arrived last summer. “Now we are bringing the cultures together. … This is the beauty that Father Paul has brought to our church.”

It is also what parishioners at St. Catherine’s hope the next archbishop of Los Angeles, Jose Gomez, will bring to an archdiocese that has been battered in recent years by a devastating sexual abuse crisis even as it has grown to become by far the largest Catholic community in the nation.

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George Will takes Cardinal Mahoney “to the woodshed” over Arizona Immigration Law

The problem of illegal immigration is inflaming Mahony, who strongly implies, as advocates for illegal immigrants often do, that any law intended to reduce such illegality is “anti-immigrant.” The implication is: Because most Americans believe such illegality should be reduced, most Americans are against immigrants. This slur is slain by abundant facts — polling data that show Americans simultaneously committed to controlling the nation’s southern border and to welcoming legal immigration.

Paul, in his first letter to the Corinthians, said, “And now abideth faith, hope and charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.” Mahony uncharitably judges Arizona legislators and the constituents they represent to be “mean-spirited.” His evident assumption, one quite common today, is that certain ideas cannot be held by any intelligent person of good will.

But what does — what can — Mahony mean by asserting that Arizona’s law is “useless”? He must believe either it will have no effect on illegal immigration or that any effect must be without social value. He can know neither to be true.

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Good news from Los Angeles: gays, progressives and liberals hate to see Cardinal Mahoney go!

These are only some of the comments of a disappointed, openly gay priest who is no longer permitted to exercise priestly faculties:

Cardinal Mahony, wrote Fr. Farrow, “who likes to view himself as a progressive, would never voluntarily be replaced by a member of the ultra-reactionary group, Opus Dei. His replacement by someone from Opus Dei clearly communicates that Mahony has lost all practical influence in Rome and was not able to name his successor.”

“What does this mean for the future of the Catholic Church in Los Angeles and California?” asked Farrow. “It means a sharp thrust to the right. The Archbishop of Los Angeles does not merely run the church in LA; he also has tremendous influence on naming the bishop in its associated sees (i.e. San Diego, Orange, Monterey, Fresno, and Riverside) and Region XI, which includes the rest of California. Many of these sees will soon require new bishops and Gomez will have tremendous influence in naming who those bishops will be. He will also reshape the education and formation of new priests for the whole region since St. John’s Seminary, where priests are trained and formed, is under his direct control.”

“(Archbishop) Gomez is an excellent choice from the perspective of Rome,” wrote Fr. Farrow. “He is a member of Opus Dei and therefore ‘orthodox’ and more importantly subservient to Rome. He is a Latino who speaks broken English with a heavy Spanish accent and possesses a populist ‘easy going’ demeanor. He will be a huge hit with Latinos in Southern California and politicians will think twice before confronting Gomez on any point.”

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Editor’s note: After a long string of various scandals and embarrassments, plus some $600 million in abuse settlements, things (finally) appear to be looking up for left-coast Catholics!

“Robin Hood” Mexican priest in big trouble with his superiors

“Be Alert,” reads the Nov. 1 bulletin at Our Lady of the Holy Rosary church in Los Angeles. “Father Raymundo Figueroa of the Diocese of Tijuana is in this area and is presiding at baptisms and first Communions for a fee of $180 per person. He is here without permission of his bishop.” U.S. churches don’t normally charge for the sacraments unless, as in the case of weddings, there are expenses such as musicians and flowers.

Simony was a common transgression in the Middle Ages, when simonists were condemned to hell in Dante’s “Inferno.” The modern consequences aren’t quite so dire, but in the most serious cases they can include a priest’s suspension.

Figueroa is suspected of organizing ceremonies from Chula Vista to the San Fernando Valley. Fifty to several hundred children at a time receive the sacraments in nonchurch settings, like parks and hotels, people’s living rooms and backyards. Instead of church choirs and organs, strolling mariachis provide the music.

“They just do it in people’s houses. You don’t need much. For baptisms, a little water. For first Communions, you just set up a table,” said Father Richard Zanotti of the Holy Rosary parish in Los Angeles.

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SSPX Bishop Williamson/Holocaust Denial Affair Stranger and Stranger

keeprightwrongToday we see a new document by Los Angeles Cardinal Mahoney which bars the controversial SSPX Bishop Williamson from entering any Catholic facility in the Los Angeles Archdiocese.

Where’s the ban on militant gay Catholics, Catholic abortion promoters, and other heretical Catholic clergy, religious, and laity?

And precisely WHEN did it become a required matter of faith for all Catholics everywhere to accept a particular HISTORICAL account of the Holocaust, even if it happens to be  correct?

Strange indeed!

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