Detroit Conference: Aging “Hippie” Catholics want to drag church back to 1965

In another keynote address, Jeanette Rodriguez, a theology professor from Seattle University, praised Latin American liberation theology – which has been criticized by the Vatican – and said the church must side with the poor and oppressed.

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The Anti-Pentecost: Liberal Catholic “Party” Meeting in Detroit This Weekend.

Some 2,000 are attending the conference, which kicked off Friday with workshops during the day and talks in the evening by theologians Rev. Hans Kung and Prof. Jeanette Rodriguez along with a prayer service that declared support for gays, women, and victims of racism and child abuse.

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Editor’s note: Most of these folks are dismayed to see the post-Vatican II liberal onslaught fizzling out, in favor of the ancient faith … as if 45 years of anarchy within the Church of Christ isn’t enough.

This isn’t about the abuse crisis, or any of the other named causes. It’s about denying essential doctrines and practices of the Catholic Church and replacing them with liberal, “democratic” novelties, according to the seriously disordered image and likeness of the radical reformers.

The Anglicans have already done all that … and look what happened!

The fact is … “CHANGE” came to the Catholic Church in 1965 … and once the church was taken out of the way, a host of abominations, sacrilege, and social ills shortly followed.

Revelation 12:12-17  Therefore, rejoice, O heavens, and you that dwell therein. Woe to the earth and to the sea, because the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, knowing that he hath but a short time.  And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman who brought forth the man child.

And there were given to the woman two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the desert, unto her place, where she is nourished for a time and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

And the serpent cast out of his mouth, after the woman, water, as it were a river: that he might cause her to be carried away by the river.

And the earth helped the woman: and the earth opened her mouth and swallowed up the river which the dragon cast out of his mouth. And the dragon was angry against the woman: and went to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The Church of the Ages has finally emerged from the post-Vatican II desert. Satan’s torrent of lies has been diverted, and at least partially tamed. Yet the battle continues to rage.

From the above passage, it’s clear that the “good guys” (in every generation) are those who continue to keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. The only way to do that is to remain totally faithful to the Catholic Church.

And what of the other guys?

2Timothy 4:1-4  I charge thee, before God and Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead, by his coming and his kingdom:

Preach the word: be instant in season, out of season: reprove, entreat, rebuke in all patience and doctrine.

For there shall be a time when they will not endure sound doctrine but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers having itching ears: And will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables.

Link to Q&A about the controversy from the Archdiocese of Detroit

Seen on the web: Practical reasons why women’s ordination was, is, and always will be wrong.

Submitted by Anonymous on May 25, 2011.

Would just like to say that I once had a problem with the inability of women to be ordained, and then when I read the Church’s documents, I continued to struggle for a while, then I started to get it. And then when I studied at a seminary, I really understood it. I thank God for the all-male priesthood, which is the only kind there can be. Jesus knew what He was doing, and no, we haven’t been tricked into thinking He only picked men for the priesthood. There is no evidence for that whatsoever…it’s a feminist myth just like the feminist myths of an idyllic past when women ruled the world.

You know what else I learned studying at seminary? That I had been poisoned by a feminist culture and upbringing. No one suggested that to me…it just became evident to me after spending some time around these wonderful, holy, orthodox young men. When I began to spend time with the seminarians, I began to truly appreciate men and their unique mode, if you will, of being human. Everything that JPII says about complementarity and so on is true.

I won’t give a defense of the all-male priesthood here because first of all the fact that the Church teaches it is enough, and you can read the documents for yourself. You either want to be a faithful Catholic or you don’t, and rejecting Church teaching is not part of being a faithful Catholic. Also, those who are in rebellion on this point seem to be completely closed-minded to any argument, so what they need is grace! Because I’ve been there, I pray for them, but I do wish they’d stop leading others astray and attacking Christ’s ministers.

I will say this, however. My first clue that the women’s ordination crowd was not right was that so many were in favor of so-called abortion rights, homosexuality, etc., and also denied core doctrines like the Incarnation. So here’s another reason I praise God that we don’t have women priests: If these women were in charge of the Church, or in any position of authority in the Church, it’d be a mess of heretical whimsy and tolerance of the killing of the unborn and God knows what else. Everywhere these folks have been in charge (like many Catholic schools, and some work in Dioceses), the result has been confusion and heresy and intolerance for the true Faith.

Luckily younger generation women are more traditional. It is easy to be led astray on this matter because the all-male priesthood is counter-cultural nowadays, and people have no idea what it really is to act in persona Christi, to be alter Christus. Because they think it’s just a role, like any Protestant pastor or president of a meeting might have, they don’t get it… It’s very, very unfortunate. But those with theology degrees should know better than the average person in the pew who just thinks everything in life is a matter of “rights.”

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Editor’s note: The above was a reader comment response to a shameful, poorly researched and blatantly misleading editorial piece written by a CINO (Catholic In Name Only) website that is really Protestant in almost every single one of its various, radical positions … but is too far gone to actually admit it.

Catholicism: Not a Big Tent but rather a loving fraternity – with rules.


The religion in which I was raised was not a Big Tent but rather a loving fraternity – with rules.

With a tent, all you have to do is lift the flap and come on in, no questions asked. The fraternity requires a bit of effort on your part, a willingness to accept the membership requirements. And unlike some clubs, those requirements are not up to a popular referendum.

Yes, Vatican II did open up the club’s windows and let some fresh air circulate through the musty rooms. It gave official recognition to what was already accepted, that women were valuable contributors to both the intellectual and spiritual life of the church.

It tried to bridge the sometimes formidable divide between priests and the people sitting in the pews, abolishing (sometimes unwisely) traditions that kept God’s children at an artificial distance from him. Included in that banishment was the use of Latin as the Mass vernacular, making services more accessible (but much less beautiful) than before.

And as one of the guinea pigs who spent her puberty post-Vatican II, I appreciated the more open discussions about sexuality that occurred in church and the schools. The other stuff – cloying and annoying guitar masses, the sign of peace (ever hear of germs?) and allowing us to actually hold the Eucharist in our hands (pass the Purell) – I could have done without.

But even these changes haven’t been enough for those crusading Catholics who believe their church isn’t user-friendly, and who have tried to make dissent from the hierarchy into its own special virtue.

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Doria2 Sounds Off About Dissenters

Doria2 has a lot to say about organizations that claim to be working with the best interests of the Catholic Church in mind, but rarely do:

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