Musings of a Modernist Pope: Sorry Francesco, the Mass of the Ages isn’t the passing “fad”. You are!

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[Abp. Jan Graubner speaks:] When we were discussing those who are fond of the ancient liturgy and wish to return to it, it was evident that the Pope speaks with great affection, attention, and sensitivity for all in order not to hurt anyone. However, he made a quite strong statement when he said that he understands when the old generation returns to what it experienced, but that he cannot understand the younger generation wishing to return to it.

When I search more thoroughly – the Pope said – I find that it is rather a kind of fashion [in Czech: ‘móda‘, Italian ‘moda‘]. And if it is a fashion, therefore it is a matter that does not need that much attention. It is just necessary to show some patience and kindness to people who are addicted to a certain fashion. But I consider greatly important to go deep into things, because if we do not go deep, no liturgical form, this or that one, can save us.

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Pope Francis: Traditional Latin Mass just a “fad”. Fugetaboudit!

See exactly what the Pope had to say.

Pope Francis singles out the Latin Mass crowd for particular criticism (again). Then he (probably unintentionally) takes it right back!

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by Doug Lawrence

From the Pope’s new Apostolic “Exaltation”:

“In some people we see an ostentatious preoccupation for the liturgy, for doctrine and for the Church’s prestige, but without any concern that the Gospel have a real impact on God’s faithful people and the concrete needs of the present time”.

Since I don’t know anyone like this, I wish the Pope would specifically point them out or at least, give us a list of names!

Then curiously, Pope Francis seems to say just the reverse:

“Pastoral ministry in a missionary style is not obsessed with the disjointed transmission of a multitude of doctrines to be insistently imposed…the message has to concentrate on the essentials, on what is most beautiful, most grand, most appealing and at the same time most necessary. The message is simplified, while losing none of its depth and truth, and thus becomes all the more forceful and convincing.”

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What could be more essential, more beautiful, more grand, more appealing, more necessary and more empowering than Our Lord Jesus Christ, becoming present for us on the altar, at Mass – body and blood, soul and divinity – the source and center of all Catholic worship – by means of an ancient liturgy, fully approved by Tradition, which is at once solemn, formal, pious, glorious, reverent, faithful, powerful, joyous, true and ever new?

I’ve never been a stickler about the Latin Mass. I appreciate a properly celebrated Mass, in any of the approved forms. That’s why I can’t believe the Pope keeps obsessing about this!

Is religious liberty exclusively for the Jews, Pagans, Protestants and progressive Catholics, or do Traditional Catholics also have a right to worship – within practical limits – in the way they prefer?

None of the pre-Vatican II devotions and liturgies were ever legitimately outlawed by the Church. None of them were ever found lacking, for genuine doctrinal or efficacious reasons. 

All of these things were in fact, time-tested over centuries – even millennium – until the modernist Vatican II “Fathers” unilaterally decided to discard the lot of them, in favor of “Catholic light” liturgical novelties that are, in truth, more Lutheran and Methodist than Catholic. Then – just to be sure – they illegally banned the old Latin Mass, for almost fifty years.

With our current hierarchy well aware of the Pope’s obvious disdain for such things, we can probably expect the “Francis Effect” to “bury” the old Latin Mass once again – this time, for God only knows how long!

It’s all liberal, left-wing politics! Barack Obama couldn’t have managed (or should I say mismanaged) things any better!

Is this what the Pope means, when he writes, “The message is simplified, while losing none of its depth and truth, and thus becomes all the more forceful and convincing.” ? If so, we’ve got big trouble in Vatican City – since about seventy five percent of post Vatican II Catholics have already voted “NO” by walking away from the Novus Ordo Mass – and the post-Vatican II Catholic Church – never to return!

But to be fair – the popularity of the “Clown Mass”, the “Circus Mass” and the “Picnic Mass” has never been higher!

133 various comments on the Catholic Answers website pretty much describe all the problems being experienced in the present day Catholic Church

For example:

…If the the SSPX are radical traditionalists then so are the rest of us! Attack one Catholic and you attack us all. That’s the message to Catholic Answers the SSPX are in the boat stop trying to push them out.

Religious Liberty, False Ecumenism and Collegiality all coming from Vatican II are a problem for most thinking Catholics who are going to the Traditional Latin Mass. This is not limited to the SSPX or those other groups your radio show talked about. The other huge problem and this is where the southern poverty law center comes is supersessionism and Vatican II. The southern poverty law center calls faithful Catholics “anti-semites” and “radical traditionalists” due to our holding to the reality of supersessionism. This is an injustice.

The topic of the Jews must not be pushed under the rug because it makes people feel icky. Michael Voris was not allowed to speak in my diocese because he was faithful to Christ and the truth about the Jews & the reality the matter. This also is an injustice. So let’s have at it in Charity gentlemen…

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Traditional Latin Mass DVD now available

“The Latin Mass DVD is nice for people who don’t have that Mass in their area or are curious about it,” said Diehl. “My friends were surprised by how different it was, how calming, how reverent, how different from a modern Catholic Mass. My parents have been traditional Catholics since I was a toddler. They made sure their children had an understanding. I don’t think you can love your faith if you don’t understand it. I love them for it.”

Rita and Chris McEvoy think there’s a market for the DVD. They’d like their children and grandchildren to know about the traditional rite they grew up with in Detroit. Both attended Latin Mass when she was a student at Visitation Elementary and High School and he attended church at St. Dominic, St. Agnes and St. Francis de Sales. Today both are parishioners at St. John Neumann in Canton where an English Mass is offered.

“It was very well done and it’s great for the kids to know what you’re talking about,” said Chris McEvoy of Canton.

“It’s great if you can’t go to church,” added his wife, Rita.

The Latin Mass DVD is available at www.stjosephsmedia.net or amazon.com. The cost is $20 plus shipping and includes the Mass missal. Or send a check for $23 to St. Joseph’s Media, P.O. Box 186, Wayne, MI 48184.

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Of liberal and traditional Catholics … their critics and supporters

As it turns out, Pope Benedict XVI, in the motu propio, Summorum Pontificum, declared, in agreement with the traditionalists, that the liturgical books of 1962 had never been abrogated when the novus ordo was promulgated! What’s more, traditional Catholics had a right to the old Mass!

However, to my knowledge Vere and Madrid didn’t even bother to correct their book, which still contains these errors along with a few other doozies. Nor were apologies forthcoming when the excommunications of the bishops of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius X were lifted by the Holy Father.

Now that prominent churchmen and theologians are taking seriously the traditionalist critique of the 20th century changes in the Church, as first formulated by thinkers such as Romano Amerio, it is becoming crystal clear that a place is being carved out for traditional Catholics in an emerging Church, just now starting on a reform in continuity with Tradition of the post-Vatican II errors.

That place had been denied to traditional Catholics, not just by the liberals of the “hermeneutic of rupture”, but also by the mainstream, novus ordo conservatives such as Vere, Madrid, and, our friend, Mr. Mark Shea.

So the present situation that these novus ordo conservatives find themselves in after Summorum Pontificum is a rather uncomfortable one.

They were so sure that the old liturgical books had been abrogated. Wrong!

They were so sure that the novus ordo was the Traditional Latin Mass for the very reason that the old books had been abrogated. Wrong again!

Because the old liturgical books were not abrogated, and because there are now two forms of the Roman Rite, the novus ordo is certainly distinct from the Traditional Latin Mass.

They were so sure that there was no room in the Church for those disaffected traditionalists that were attached to the Traditional Latin Mass. Wrong again!

We are to be welcomed and all generosity is to be shown to those who are attached to the Traditional Latin Mass.

They were so sure that all those criticisms of Vatican II and the 20th Century changes were disobedience. Wrong again!

The debate has been welcomed, and, according to the secretary of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, the criticisms “make sense”!

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Sunday, 15 May, 2011: Mass in the extraordinary form of the Roman Rite was celebrated in the Vatican basilica.

Sunday’s historic Solemn Pontifical Mass at the altar of the Chair in St. Peter’s Basilica with the participation of no less than four Cardinals of the Holy Roman Church is also being reported in the 16/17 May edition of the Osservatore Romano, the “semi-official” newspaper of the Holy See. On p. 6 is the following article (NLM translation) including a photograph:

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