Let’s pretend the doctrine is untouchable. Then let’s do as we please and call it “pastoral”.

Communion For Adulterers: Is The Outcome Already Decided?

New pastoral teaching technique: Priest tells young man to “Rot in Hell!”

hellcliffDawn Joly’s 15-year-old son Skyler accuses the Rev. Roman Manchester of Our Lady of Good Help in Burrillville of “snapping” on Monday night.

“All of a sudden he just snaps. (It) just clicked like that and then he said he hopes I rot in hell,” Skyler Joly said.

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Editor’s note: Wasn’t that just a breath of fresh air wafting through the open windows of the newly invigorated Catholic Church?

The 2nd Vatican Council, and much more its aftermath and application, by and large have been a disaster for the Church, a disaster at once pastoral, intellectual and institutional.

As a result of this disaster the popular Catholic life that had existed was in large part destroyed.  Although Catholic culture is much broader than simply the reception of the sacraments and catechesis, it depends upon such formal elements of Catholic life. Without them it cannot last.

It is thus hard to envisage any ready way out of our present situation, since both the formal and the popular sides of Catholic life have been affected.  So how can we respond to that situation, in which the Church neither enjoys the patronage of any powerful government nor commands widespread enthusiasm and loyalty on the part of the Catholic people at-large?  In such circumstances how can the Church and Catholic life be maintained, nourished, and extended?

Sadly, the measures that can be suggested to achieve this end seem woefully inadequate.

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Question for top Catholic Church clerics: Why the obsession with all things “pastoral”?

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by Doug Lawrence

From the sound of things, a person might get the impression that no one in the Catholic Church, prior to 1965, knew anything at all about the proper care and guidance of souls. Of course, that is totally wrong!

The real issue is how the Catholic Church should continue to conduct itself, going forward – whether the church should be IN the world but not OF the world: “If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.”
(John 15:19)

Or whether the Church should “knuckle under” to the influences of the world, the flesh and the devil: “Having an appearance indeed of godliness but denying the power thereof…” (2 Timothy 3:5)

The Definition of PASTORAL – from the Merriam Webster On-line Dictionary:

: of or relating to the spiritual care or guidance of people
who are members of a religious group

: of or relating to the pastor of a church

Being “pastoral” is not rocket science. The Catholic Church has been blessed with many generations of great pastors. Being pastoral is nothing new. So what are these “obsessively pastoral” modernist clerics trying to say?

In a recent interview, the new head of the USCCB, Archbishop  Joseph Kurtz made the following comments:

Francis’ “primary word is mercy,” said the archbishop, and this emphasis on mercy comes from a deep awareness of his own shortcomings and imperfections. His humility is also the fruit of this awareness, and Archbishop Kurtz identified the pope’s genuine humility as being key to his widespread popularity: “It’s holy and it’s very beautiful. But it’s also very engaging … He seems to remind people of Jesus.”

Throughout our conversation, Archbishop Kurtz kept returning to one particular facet of Pope Francis’ message that appears to have resonated deeply within him: the importance of “accompanying the person.” Pope Francis does not call us to ignore sin entirely… 

Isn’t that special! 

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Saint John Vianney, Master Pastor and Patron of Priests,
please pray for the men who presently lead our church.

Antinomianism in high places

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Definition of ANTINOMIAN

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:  one who holds that under the gospel dispensation of grace the moral law is of no use or obligation because faith alone is necessary to salvation
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:  one who rejects a socially established morality

The recent comments of Archbishop Lorenzo Baldisseri, new Secretary General of the Synod of Bishops, regarding possible changes in the canonical discipline of withholding holy Communion from Catholics divorced-and-remarried outside the Church, seem a good example of antinomianism. But, while several recent Roman statements benefit by interpretationsecundum leniorem (in particular, not taking every unhappy phrase as a harbinger of doctrinal disaster), I think that Archbishop Baldisseri’s remarks require something more. They require, I suggest, direct response.

“A new approach needs to be taken with respect to the administration of the sacraments to remarried divorcees.”

Simply put, there is no pastorally plausible middle-ground between admitting one to holy Communion and not admitting one to holy Communion.

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The “Original Sin” of Vatican II: Replacing the traditional dogmatic language of the church with vague, new ‘pastoral’ Vatican II “doublespeak”.

”From the two opposed languages, dogmatic and pastoral, Radaelli sees the emergence and separation ‘almost of two Churches’.”

In the first, that of the most consistent traditionalists, Radaelli includes the SSPX, whom he describes as fully “Catholic by doctrine and by rite” and “obedient to dogma,” even if they are allegedly disobedient to the pope.  It is this ‘Church” [the Traditionalists] that, precisely because of its fidelity to dogma, “rejects Vatican II as an assembly in total rupture with Tradition.”

Radaelli assigns to this second “church” all the others, meaning most of the bishops, priests and faithful including Benedict XVI. This second group has renounced dogmatic language and “is in everything the daughter of Vatican II, proclaiming it – even from the highest throne, but without ever setting out proof of this – in total continuity with the preconciliar Church, albeit within the setting of a certain reform.”

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Was the Holy Spirit’s guidance at Vatican II infallible … or not?

Father Z entertains the notion. Readers comment.

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Writer explains how to understand post-Vatican II’s incredibly vague magisterial teachings

We are being told that the black in front of us was black and is now white, but hasn’t ceased being black, and you would know this if you would only juxtapose the former notion of black with what we are now saying is white, and then draw a correct interpretation according to the principles of non-contradiction and non-irrationality. When you do all that, then you will understand what we are saying. Easy as pie, no?

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Proposals for a Correct “Reading” of the Second Vatican Council

Editor’s Rule Number One: Any time you see the word “pastoral” … replace it with the word “political” … as in liberal, radical progressive, left wing … “change”.

by Bishop Athanasius Schneider, ORC


Given at a conference of cardinals and bishops held in Rome, December 17, 2010. The author is auxiliary bishop of Karaganda, Kazakhstan.

The primacy of the worship of God as the basis of all true pastoral theology.

I. The theological foundation of pastoral theology

To speak correctly of pastoral theory and practice, it is necessary first to be conscious of their foundation and their theological aim. The aim of the Church is the aim of the Incarnation: “propter nostram salutem.” This is how the faith and the prayer of the Church are expressed: “Qui propter nos homines et propter nostram salutem descendit de caelis et incarnatus est…. et homo factus est.” This salvation means the salvation of the soul for eternal life. The purpose of the Church’s whole juridical and pastoral order also consists of this salvation, as the last canon of the Code of Canon Law tells us: “prae oculis habita salute animarum, quae in Ecclesia suprema semper lex esse debet.” (can. 1752)

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Deeper background

The authentic context of Vatican II was not pastoral … but political.

“Vatican II claimed to introduce the catholic doctrine with a language in tune with the modern thinking, that is to say, harmonic with the Gnostic philosophy of Kant, Hegel and other modern Gnostics. Curiously, a pastoral Council, that claimed to speak with the people in a more understandable way, uses a weird, obscure and hermetic language which is incomprehensible to those not initiated in the current pseudo theological – or, better, Gnostic – vocabulary.”

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