Medjugorje: A Warning – by the late Michael Davies

This is a detailed treatment (over 200 pages) of the events at Mejugorje, which is not very positive in regard to much of what has gone on in and around there. Read it and come to your own conclusions, as we wait for final word from the Pope, on the matter.

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Brown: A personal “thumbs up” on reported supernatural Medjugorje Phenomena

I’ll go by what the Church ends up formally concluding (it is currently in the hands of a Vatican commission) — period — but my personal belief is that this is a place halfway between here and the hereafter, a supernatural spot where the dimensional partition is thin.

I had gone through my “conversion” (actually, my return) to the Church years before, as I said (independent of any apparition), but this brought me into a deeper and richer phase of Catholicism. It also spurred my writing in the Catholic realm. Not only did virtually everyone change for the better after visiting, but did so profoundly — converting others, establishing Adoration in their parishes upon return to the U.S., starting uncountable Rosary groups, and in many cases becoming priests. The seers are human — and not perfect (is anyone?) — but the good fruits vastly outweighed any “bad.”

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“My body will be here,” the girl told him. “But I’ll be away until Sunday.”

They were not just “visions,” nor mystical “travels” as many mystics have reported. During the events in Kibeho, the seers went into such a deep sleep or really coma that priests and doctors were convinced that one was dead — and began to talk of burial. There have been cases of this reported with certain mystics, but not ones associated with formal sites of apparition.

The first to experience this was also the first visionary, Alphonsine Mumureke — who is now a nun in a town about an hour from Rome. Her episode occurred during March of 1982, when the Blessed Mother invited her to travel to a “special place.” It would be an “overnight trip,” she was told — with a “return” on the 17-year-old girl’s birthday.

Before they went, Our Lady supposedly warned Alphonsine to instruct the school director that while it would appear as if the girl were dead, not to bury her! — an instruction that was naturally met with stunned disbelief. “My body will be here,” the girl told him. “But I’ll be away until Sunday.” A note was also penned to the bishop.

The details of these journeys are in the book Kibeho, by Father Gabriel Maindron, and Our Lady of Kibeho, by Immaculee Ilibagiza (and Steve Erwin). Indeed, on that Saturday, March 20, Alphonsine was found lying in bed at the school dormitory, in what appeared to be a deep slumber, still fully dressed, her skin waxen, her hands neatly folded over her chest.

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October 13 is the 93rd anniversary of the Miracle of the Sun that occurred in Fatima, Portugal in 1917

Read about the most significant apparition of the 20th century,
that was witnessed by tens of thousands of Catholics, as well as numerous atheists and unbelievers, of which photos, eye-witness testimony, and various contemporary newspaper accounts, still exist.

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Writer’s theory on alleged Mejugorje apparitions results in threats on his life

The possibility that the seers were seeing a spiritual entity which was not the Blessed Mother was mentioned explicitly the day before our trip to Surmanci by a priest who has been associated with the apparitions for over ten years and during that period has gone from an being avid believer and promoter to a confirmed skeptic.

After years of hearing confessions and assembling a library of new age material from penitents, it became clear to him that Medjugorje was a major stop on the New Age circuit.

Before long, the Blessed Virgin even started talking like a new age guru. The first message to issue from the lips of “Our Lady of Medjugorje” after the bishops’ condemnation was that her devotees should turn “negatives into positives,” a turn of phrase which struck this priest at the time as totally unbiblical, a feeling which received dramatic confirmation when he found exactly the same phrase coming from the lips of New Age guru, Sanaya Roman, “Channel for Orin.”

“Or,” the priest remembered, was the Hebrew word for light. The Latin word is Lux, whose genitive is lucis, which is the root of the name light-bearer, or Lucifer. The passage about changing negatives into positives, which Marija Pavlovic cited verbatim as the first message from the Gospa after the bishops’ declaration of April 1991, is the title of Chapter Five of Sanaya Roman’s book, Living with Joy: Keys to Personal Power and Spiritual Transformation (Tiburon, CA: H. J. Kramer, 1986).

Somewhere between the hypothesis that Medjugorje was a joke that got out of hand and the theory that the kids are talking to demons, I begin to descry a third possibility, based on its geographical and historical context and their relationship to the massacres at Surmanci just on the other side of apparition hill.

The “seers” saw a ghost.

Ghosts, to begin with, are psychological, whereas demons are ontological. Demons are actual beings; they are pure spirits, or angels who have chosen to rebel against God and live in a state of eternal separation from Him. Their only consolation comes from making other rational creatures, who were created to share happiness with God, share their misery instead.

Ghosts, on the other hand, are a function of the mind which beholds them. They are traditionally seen as the souls of men who have not gone to hell but rather to purgatory, from whence they escape periodically to admonish the living about some still unfinished business.

Like the monster in horror fiction, ghosts represent the return of the repressed. Both Banquo’s ghost and Hamlet’s father represent an unrighted wrong. They are an indication that an event in the past has failed to achieve closure. As a result of repression, usually caused by guilt, the ghost frequently re-presents itself at moments usually associated in some way with an anniversary of the event that needs to be repressed.

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The Official Church Position, from the local Bishop

Our Lady of Fatima and the “Angel of Portugal”


Four shepherdesses finished their noon-time meal among the rocks at the high ridge called the Cabeço. [1] It was about one kilometer from the hamlet of Aljustrel, Portugal. Lucia, Teresa, Maria Rosa and Maria Justino loved that ridge as it provided beautiful views from far above the innumerable gray green olive trees, the darker green evergreens and the many stocky holm oaks in the valley below. As they stood at the crest of the ridge near the old windmill, they could see for miles in all directions. It was a peaceful view for these young Catholic girls in a very troubled time for Catholics in that country. Seven years before, their Catholic King, Carlos I, was assassinated. Five years before, in 1910, a Masonic republican revolution expelled the papal nuncio — the Pope’s ambassador, as Catholic seminaries and the residences of the Catholic bishops were confiscated throughout the country. Members of religious orders were dispersed and the government forbade religious processions and the wearing of clerical garb. Church services were regulated by government-appointed lay committees. Bishops and priests were tried, imprisoned and exiled. In this brutal way, the Church and state were forcibly separated. The Masons were pleased. But there at the Cabeço that afternoon the air was clean, fragrant and peaceful. Lucia and her friends began to say a Rosary.

The view was clear and cloudless. It was a quiet day in a place of rural beauty. No one expected anything remarkable to happen this noon for this place was created for the ordinary. Nevertheless, as the girls prayed, they saw something extraordinary. In the otherwise clear heavens, a small solitary mist formed in the sky far above the pious girls. The mist grew into a small cloud. It was remarkably bright as it developed before their uplifted eyes. The girls watched it grow in wonder. Then the cloud revealed within it a glowing image that looked like a human form. They stared at it mesmerized. The form appeared like an unfinished statue of crystal ice that sunlight made transparent. The brilliant human image, without detailed features, was suspended in that shroud of misty air only momentarily above the praying girls and the motionless trees. And then it was gone. The girls stopped and asked each other what they had seen in the sky. They were at a complete loss to identify it. After a pause they finished their Rosary. Then the girls went home with the sheep and tried to describe to their parents what they saw drifting above them. Lucia’s mother’s response was probably typical: “children’s nonsense” she called the account.

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A summary of various opinions on what may or may not be going on there, along with a number of good links.

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By Denis Nolan

I sat outside the rectory of St. James Church in Medjugorje all that week waiting for an answer. It was 1988. Bishop John M. D’Arcy had given his permission but we wanted to be in communion with the Franciscans. 

In my letter to them, I had tried to explain that a battle was taking place between Satan and Mary at Notre Dame affecting the whole Catholic Church in America… For sure the place for a Medjugorje conference was Notre Dame!Since then there have been 20 Medjugorje conferences at Notre Dame where Our Lady’s messages have been proclaimed and witnessed with multitudes in attendance.

Today I am told that people are canceling their pre-registrations for the May 30th & 31st, 2009 National Conference because it’s being held at Notre Dame. Let’s not be too quick to concede victory to the enemy. Rather let’s recognize that The battle is engaged!

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